Britt Claeys schreef op zaterdag 14 november 2009, 19:48:


Voor mijn overleden grootvader was 13 zijn geluksnummer. Het ging zo ver dat hij zijn duiven per 13 telde. Als hij en mijn grootmoeder een zwarte kat zagen op een uitje, was hun avondje geslaagd. Ik ben getrouwd op een 13de, een zaterdag wel, maar kom nou ... bijgeloof?! It's man made!

Britt Claeys schreef op zaterdag 14 november 2009, 19:48:


Voor mijn overleden grootvader was 13 zijn geluksnummer. Het ging zo ver dat hij zijn duiven per 13 telde. Als hij en mijn grootmoeder een zwarte kat zagen op een uitje, was hun avondje geslaagd. Ik ben getrouwd op een 13de, een zaterdag wel, maar kom nou ... bijgeloof?! It's man made!

...en ik lag te slapen....[nachtdienst]

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Knappe knol!!!!

Gr Esther

van lennep schreef op zaterdag 14 november 2009, 21:10:


Is dat Namkje, Esther? Met iemand op haar rug? WOW!

van lennep schreef op zaterdag 14 november 2009, 21:30:


Gaaf, Esther, hartstikke GAAAAAAF!!!!

van lennep schreef op zaterdag 14 november 2009, 21:30:


Goed zo!

van lennep schreef op zaterdag 14 november 2009, 21:10:


Yes! Binnenkort jij hè

Graag commentaar van forummers die het Engels goed beheersen (native speakers?)

Dit is de vertaling die ik gemaakt heb van Arno's filmpje:

Before I start with my story, I want to tell you why I'm telling this story. There is a lot to be changed in the world of horses: horses don't have enough freedom of movement, do not get the nutrition they need and al lot of pain is inflicted with bits.

I believe, and I hope, many mistakes are made by people not realizing the impact of their actions on their horses. By explaining this as clear as possible, I hope we can contribute to a better horse welfare.

I'll start with a problem that is easiest to adress; the bit. Because the bit is in the mouth, it is concealed. What we do not see, isn't there. Therefore many people don't think about what a bit does in the mouth of the horse.

I still remember a riding lessong on a pushy horse. I had to pull the reins so hard all the time, that I couldn't scarcely move my fingers afterwards, so much did it hurt. I didn't thought a moment about what that poor horse must have felt in his mouth. Despite his attempt to make this clear to me.

It happens so often, that people no longer even notice it. Horses ridden with bits do open their mouths very often. And they have a good reason. To understand why they do this, we have to know what's going on inside.

With a model of a skull we can diagnose what a bit does. Acutally it is not very difficult to figure out why this horse opens his mouth. We just have to figure out what would happen if he would close his mouth.

Because the hinge effect of the bit, the pallate will be harmed. By opening its mouth the horse can release itself from the pain. But there are other ways to escape from the pain. In order to explain this, I'll use an example with a chair. We all have been to a restaurant with chairs like this one. The designer had a great sense of design, but not of comfort. The chair hurts constantly in your back. On chairs like these, I cannot sit back for more than one minute. People sitting on these chairs constantly move. They lean on one shoulder, then on the other and then back to the spine. Why do they do this? I think to distribute the pain. You can imagine that it would hurt even more, when the chair is ticking against your back.

Horses feel the bit against their pallate all the time. They cannot distribute the pain, but they can put something between the bit an their pallate. That is one of their most sensitive organs; the tongue.

Quite often you can hear people complain about their horses throwing their tongues over the bit. The problem can be solved immediately when the bit is taken out. But unfortunately not many people do that.

The market has cleverly responded to the situation, by offering various tools tha supposedly solve the problem. This will only control the symptoms, but not the cause. I will not discuss all the tools being used, but I'll take the spoon snaffle as an example. With this bit a horse cannot place its tongue over the bit.

The double broken snaffle doesn't not hurt the pallate in the same way a single broken snaffle does, but still can hurt the lower jaw. Not many people know that the jaw where the bit is placed, is razor sharp.

When the rider pull on the reins, the bit pusehs the gums on the sharp bone. With a single broken snaffle it is no different.

Well, not all horses have an equal tongue. Usually the tongue is so big that it covers the bones. That makes it even worse for the horse. The tongue is then pinched between the bit and the sharp bone. This is also a reason horses open their mouth.

By pulling the lower jaw back, the tongue gets somewhat more freedom for a moment. But the rider wants to have a steady pressure on the reins. So the rider will pull on the reins. The horse responds by opening his mouth again.

Most riders notice something is wrong if a horse opens his mouth. Rather than find out why this happen, the horse is litterally silenced with tightening nosebands. This is just playing peek-a-boo. A horse ridden with tightened nosebands doesn't open his mouth. Many riders think the problem is now solved. But the reason the horse opened his mouth was pain, and the pain is still there. The horse horse no longer opens his mouth, because he can not.

Actually it is quite ironic; Many of us dream of being able to speak with their horses. But when the horse tries to make clear he is in pain, we silence them with nosebands.....

Arabesk schreef op zaterdag 14 november 2009, 23:22:


Tja, ondanks dat ik je niet een heel erg leuk mens vind, had ik je best willen helpen met de vertaling. Maar aangezien je de suggesties die ik eerder deed blijkbaar naast je laat liggen, ga ik verder niet mijn best doen.
Maak er maar steenkolen engels van, jammer.

Wisten jullie al dat Frans en Ilona van hun kano een echt vliegtuigje hebben gemaakt?
Leuk he!!!! Weer es wat anders dan altijd dat pooniehobbelen

Arabesk schreef op zaterdag 14 november 2009, 23:22:


Afgezien van de spelfouten staan er fouten die je hoort bij het uitspreken.
Als ik daarop let, en ik ben geen native speaker, dan vallen iig op:

that I couldn't scarcely
= that I could hardly

I didn't thought
= think

snaffle doesn't not
= does not

When the rider pull
=pulls

opening his mouth
=its mouth

out why this happen
=happens

doesn't open his
= its

out why this happen
=happens

Horse is een it, dus geen 'he' en 'his'.